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Ch. Tammany (dog, liver/white, w: August 24, 1883, AKC 4114)
Luckystone (bitch, liver/white, w: August 24, 1883, AKC 5595)
Madstone (bitch, liver/white, w: August 24, 1883, AKC 5597)

Tammany
"Tammany"
-- Image scanned from Field Dog Stud Book, Vol.1, 1901.



AKC:
""4114 Tammany" F.R. Hitchcock, New York, N.Y. Breeder, G. DeForest Grant, New York, N.Y. Whelped August 24, 1883; liver and white; by "Pilkington's Tory", out of "Moonstone", by "Price's Bang", out of "Davey's Luna"; "Tory" by "Garth's old Drake", out of "Moore's Mab". Bench Shows: -- 3d, Philadelphia, 1885." -- AKC Studbook, 1886, Vol.III

NOTE: The AKC Studbook entry shows him to be American bred ... "Luckystone" and "Madstone" breeding infers the same ... Hochwalt (1911 and 1923, see below) calls him an import. AKC Studbook (1887, Vol.IV) has a listing for "Moonstone" (see below) and she appears to be an import.

AKC:
""5595 Luckystone" -- Westminster Kennel Club, Babylon, L.I. Breeder, Geo. De Forest Grant, N.Y. Whelped August 24, 1883; liver and white; by "Tory", out of "Moonstone (5602)" [AKC 5600], "Tory" by "Drake", out of "Mab", by "Major" out of "Holken's bitch"; "Drake" by "Rap", out of "Doll". Bench Shows: -- 2d Boston; 1st and special Phila. (fall), 1885." -- AKC Studbook, 1887, Vol.IV

AKC:
""5597 Madstone" -- Westminster Kennel Club, Babylon, L.I. Breeder, Geo. De Forest Grant, N.Y. Whelped August 24, 1883; liver and white; by "Tory", out of "Moonstone". LItter sister to "Luckystone (5595)". Bench Show: -- 2d, Boston, 1885." -- AKC Studbook, 1887, Vol.IV


AKC: "Moonstone":
""5600 Moonstone" -- Westminster Kennel Club, Babylon, L.I. Breeder, G. Lowe, England. Whelped 1879; liver and white; by "Price's Bang", out of "Davey's Luna", by "Lord Cole's Cole", out of "Evan's Nell"; "Bang", by "Coham's Bang", out of "Price's Vesta". Bench Show: 2d, New Haven, 1884." -- AKC Studbook, 1887, Vol.IV


"Mr. F.R. Hitchcock imported a dog about this time which he called "Tammany". He was a liver and white, strongly made pointer, having his faults, it is true -- some of which he was prone to transmit -- but he always held his won in good company and comsequently made a very nice record on the bench, but his reputation does not rest on his bench record alone, for he was also a field dog and a winner at trials; his field trial roll of honor consisting of a first in the Membership stake of the Eastern Field trials in 1887 and first in the same club's All-age pointer stake the same year. The first even had ten starters; six English setters and four pointers, and the other, thirteen starters." -- Hochwalt, 1911


"Another dog which deserves mention among the importations of this period is "Tammany", which was brought over by F.R. Hitchcock. He was a white and liver, very well made, possessing splendid bone and substance; he had his faults, it is true, but he was as pointer which could win in good company on the bench. He was not a bench show winner only, however, for in 1887 he won the Members' stake of the Eastern trials and also the all-age pointer stake the same year. "Tammany" was also the sire of "Renie", which became the dam of "Lad of Kent" when bred to "Bracket", the son of "Graphic". "Lad of Kent" was one of the handsomest heavyweight pointers of his time, and as evidence of this we have only to cite his New York record, where he won highest honors for pointers at the Westminster Kennel Club show eight or nine years in succession. "Lad of Kent's" last win was made when he was eleven years old." -- Hochwalt, 1923, The Modern Pointer


""Tammany" was also the sire of "Renie", the dam of "Lad of Kent", who made such a phenomenal record on the bench by winning highest honors on the bench at the New York show for eight or nine consecutive years. His last win was made in 1900, when he was eleven years old." -- Hochwalt, 1911


""Tammany" was bred on the same utility lines as a number of other great field dogs. His sire was "Pilkington's Tory", who ... was by "Garth's Drake" out of "Moore's Mab." His dam was "Moonstone", a daughter of "Price's Bang" and "Davey's Luna"; the latter being by "Lord Cole's Cole" out of "Evans' Nell". "Nell" was by "Smith's Major" out of "Dido". "Lord Cole's Cole" was by "Bird's Bob", who was the sire of "Hamlet". When it comes to a study of breeding, "Tammany" was as good as any dog brought over from England during those days of numerous importations and there was no reason why as much could not be expected of him, yet he was not a popular dog with breeders and his services were not much sought after." -- Hochwalt, 1911






Ch. Tammany

Pilkington's Tory
(dark liver/white)
(w: 1874)
Garth's Drake
(liver/white)
(w: 1868)

Garth's Drake

Garth's Rap Comberbach's Don
(w: 1859)
Cornwall Legh's Mars
Moll
Garth's Jilt
("Lord Lichfield's Jilt")

(sold to Mr. Garth in 1862)

Lord Lichfield's Jasper
Lord Lichfield's Juno
Garth's Doll
("Doll I")
(w: 1864)
Ch. Newton's Ranger
(w: 1859)
Whichcote's Ranger
Foster's Ruth
Garth's Mite Derby's Duke
Derby's Daisy
Moore's Mab
(liver/white)

(bred by Rev. Holden, pure Edge blood)

Holden's Major    
 
   
 
Rev. Holden's bitch    
 
   
 
Moonstone
(liver/white)
(w: 1879)
Price's Bang
(liver/white, gold cheeks)
(w: 1870)

Price's Bang

Coham's Bang
(lemon/white)
Whitehouse's Hamlet
(lemon/white)
(w: 1861)

Whitehouse's Hamlet

Bird's Bob
(lemon/white)
(w: 1860)
Whitehouse's Juno
(lemon/white)
(w: 1858)
Postan's Venus Bird's Bob
(lemon/white)
(w: 1860)
Gilbert's Bloomer
Price's Vesta Brockton's Bounce
(liver/white)
(w: 1861)
Duke of Newcastle's Bounce
Juno
assume Edge of Strelly line
Francis' Belle Sancho
Dido
Davey's Luna Lord Cole's Cole Bird's Bob
(lemon/white)
(w: 1860)
Battock's Joker
(Battcock's Joker)
Lang's Fan
(w: 1855)
Gilbert's Bloomer  
 
Evan's Nell Smith's Major
(lemon/white)
(w: 1862)

Smiths Major

Bird's Bob
(lemon/white)
(w: 1860)
Gilbert's Bloomer
Smith's Dido
(w: 1859)
Lord Falkland's Byron
 


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