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Nellie Bang (bitch, black/white altho possibly black with white on chest ???), w: July 11, 1884, AKC 5604)

AKC:
""5604 Nellie Bang" -- U.R. Fishel, Hope, Ind. Breeder, Adolph Sander, Dayton, O. Whelped July 11, 1884; black and white; by "Bang Bang (4022)", out of "Josie", by "Champion Bow (2853)", out of "Topsy (1345)". -- AKC Studbook, Vol.IV, 1887

why "Nellie Bang" might be a solid ???

AKC - "Winning Ways":
" "15315 Winning Ways" -- U.R. Fishel, Hope, Ind. Breeder, owner. Whelped Sept. 7, 1889; liver, white chest, by "Devonshire Sam (7843)", out of "Nellie Bang (5604)". -- AKC Studbook, 1889, Vol.IV


"The dam of "Gorham's Jing", "Pontone", was a solid black. She was by "Oakwood Rock", a black dog with a white stripe down his breast, who was by "Rank" out of "Jill", both Pape blacks. "Pontone's" dam, "Lady Hope", was a liver and white; she was by "Rene Croxteth" ("Devonshire Sam" - "Nellie Bang") out of "Lola Ree" ("Devonshire Sam" - "Della S"). "Rank", the sire of "Oakwood Rock" was by "Maximus" out of "Lady Pape", while "Jill" was by "Crow" out of "Queen". All of these were pure blacks, of the Pape strain." -- Hochwalt, 1911, Pointer and Setters in America


Nellie Bang

Bang Bang
(lemon/white)
(w: 1881)

Bang Bang

Price's Bang
(liver/white, gold cheeks)
(w: 1870)

Price's Bang

Coham's Bang
(lemon/white)
Whitehouse's Hamlet
(lemon/white)
(w: 1861)

Whitehouse Hamlet

Bird's Bob
(lemon/white)
(w: 1860)
Whitehouse's Juno
(lemon/white)
(w: 1858)
Postan's Venus Bird's Bob
(lemon/white)
(w: 1860)
Gilbert's Bloomer
Price's Vesta Brockton's Bounce
(liver/white)
(w: 1861)
Duke of Newcastle's Bounce
Juno
(assume Edge of Strelly line)
Francis' Belle Sancho
Dido
Princess Kate
(black/white)
Ponto Whitehouse's Hamlet
(lemon/white)
(w: 1861)

Whitehouse Hamlet

Bird's Bob
(lemon/white)
(w: 1860)
Whitehouse's Juno
(lemon/white)
(w: 1858)
Parrott's bitch  
 
Sappho Sefton's Sam Statter's Major
Sefton's Drab
Sefton's Flirt Sefton's Mat
Sefton's Deuce
Josie

(most likely black)

Bow
(liver/white)
(w: 1874)

Bow

Price's Bang
(liver/white, gold cheeks)
(w: 1870)

Price's Bang

Coham's Bang
(lemon/white)
Whitehouse's Hamlet
(lemon/white)
(w: 1861)

Whitehouse Hamlet

Postan's Venus
Price's Vesta Brockton's Bounce
(liver/white)
(w: 1861)
Francis' Belle
Davey's Luna Lord Cole's Cole Bird's Bob
(lemon/white)
(w: 1860)
Gilbert's Bloomer
Evan's Nell Smith's Major
(lemon/white)
(w: 1862)

Smiths Major

Smith's Dido
(w: 1859)
Waddell's Topsy
(black)
(w: 1874)
Waddell's Phil
(Waddell's "Old Phil")
(black)
Billow

(brought from the South during the Civil War)

 
 
Sue  
 
Gillespie's Nellie
("Nelly")
Shot  
 
Clay's bitch  
 


Sons and Daughters

Using today's terminology, Nellie Bang was an 1880's "Puppy Mill" ... produced 8 litters in 4 years (???) ... she most likely was a solid black, as she was bred 7 times (???) to the liver/white Devonshire Sam ...

NOTE --- NONE OF THIS IS VERIFIED against actual AKC registrations and came 2nd-hand --- it may be garbage


Sons and Daughters



Some GrandKids



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